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How much stronger is perfect cell than frieza at 100%
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Topic Started: May 26 2013, 02:00 PM (9,552 Views)
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Jun 1 2013, 07:47 AM
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Come one Prove that weakling is stronger than SPC comeon ....she doesnt even have ssj ...
-She knocked down Rilld, someone stronger than Boo, with Trunks even noting that she was possibly stronger than him. -She recieved no damage from SSJ Goten Baby, despite not fighting back at all. -Her Kamehameha almost defeated Liu Xing Long, who was able to compete with Base Goku, who at the time was far stronger than his Baby Arc self, who was already above Gohan Boo. -She mocked Qi Xing Long's speed, despite him being strong enough to withstand attacks from SS4 Goku, and being absorbed by him allowed Qi to get to a level where he could thrash SS4 Goku once Goku had lost Shouki and Yuuki. -Toriyama apparently didn't know how to design a female SSJ, plus, Toei seemed to prefer Base Saiyans (Goku fought in base for far more than twice the time he used SSJ forms other than SS4). Oh yes, someone with a lot to place them well over the majority of DBZ characters, and fully above any of them by the time of the Evil Dragon Arc wouldn't measure up to much more than a 9,000 BP. I think he meant, prove that she is stronger than 9000 in DBZ, not DBGT.....
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Jun 1 2013, 07:51 AM
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Stay on topic, guys 
And exponentially more powerful to answer the OP. The rate of increase in power level in this show gets so out of control that there are vast gulfs of difference in power between sagas.
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ithink having *5000 and more as a gap is ridiculous Vegeta could stomp dodoria with a 1.2 gap .. Furthermore if cell is more than *5000 times stronger than frieza that would mean that MSSJ gohan is also *3500 times stronger than frieza .. hmmm Dont forget that frieza was somewhere *10 times stronger than Nail ....and he beat the crap outta him In my opinion Cell's max is *10times stonger than frieza's .... REASON:it is not necessary to create such a big gaps,being 10 times stronger means simple roflstomp....
It doesn't matter whether or not 10x or 5x or 2x is enough to 'roflstomp' an opponent. The difference between Cell and Freeza isn't determined by how well Cell can stomp Freeza, because then I could just say there's a 1.2x difference between them both. The difference between them is determined by the differences between everyone above Freeza and below Cell. - Abyss
- May 31 2013, 02:45 PM
I am not sayin that we have to use 1.001 gaps ..for stomps But look this .. BoZ goku ~1000 EoZ goku 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Now tell me if it is not weird
Firstly, no one's going to end up with such a figure. You're blowing it out of proportion in order to make it look more ridiculous than it is. Secondly, why does it matter if you find it weird? Say you work with the gaps implied and made a list, and you end up gauging Cell to be a few hundred times stronger than Freeza. So what? At least your result is more reliable than the guesses that you're pulling out of thin air right now. Just to spell things out about the whole 'big gap' thing, keeping things as small as I can (if you have the patience to read it all): Spoiler: click to toggle Goku and Freeza have a close fight.
Freeza - 100 SSJ Goku - 104
Freeza gets a mechanical body and thinks he might beat Goku on his own now. Logically, he's a little stronger at this stage...
SSJ Goku - 104 Mecha Freeza - 105
Trunks comes in and claims he can kill Freeza instantly. At the very least, something like 1.2x (Vegeta over Dodoria) is needed here since that's the lowest example we have of an insta-kill.
Mecha Freeza - 105 SSJ Trunks - 126
When Piccolo fights #20, he wonders whether or not #20 might be one of foes Trunks spoke of, or if #20 were just another weakling like #19. So, we can gather that #20's strong enough to 'demolish Trunks', but he isn't so powerful that it's a certainty. Lowest 'stomping' gap we have would arguably be Monster Zarbon over Vegeta, which was around or a little under 1.2x or so depending on your Monster Zarbon figure. Apply that here...
SSJ Trunks - 126 #20 - 150
Piccolo lol-pwns #20. Let's use 1.2x again...
#20 - 150 Piccolo - 180
Piccolo puts Trunks on a higher level than him when saying telling Krillin something along the lines of, "don't worry, not even Trunks could beat them." It isn't necessarily a stomp, but Piccolo doesn't exactly rival either..so less than 1.2x between the two, but not too small.
Piccolo - 180 SSJ Trunks - 200
Tenshinhan claims that Vegeta isn't too far from Goku, and Goku isn't too far from Trunks. Trunks thinks Vegeta's power is amazing. So there's a gap between the two, but nothing huge...
SSJ Trunks - 200 SSJ Goku - 210 SSJ Vegeta - 215
#18 comes in and completely owns Vegeta. However, 1.2x wouldn't suffice here. Why? Because she took Vegeta's punch to the gut, hardly flinching, whereas Reacoom (who was roughly ~1.33x Vegeta, according to most) was sent flying by Vegeta's punch. She also took his chi blast with no damage.
SSJ Vegeta - 215 #18 - 320 (almost 1.5x)
She rivals #17, but there's somewhat of a gap between the two since #20 specifically made #18 weaker hoping she'd be more obedient as a result.
#17 - 340
Piccolo (with Kami) is around #17's level, arguably a little bit stronger since he continued to fight him evenly even after tiring himself out a bit.
Piccolo - 350 #17 - 340 Piccolo (tiring) - 330
Piccolo uses the Light Grenade on Cell to no effect. Given that he thought little of Cell's Kamehameha from before, his attack should be superior to the Kamehameha (which was Goku's KHH in the Saiyan Saga, which was amplified by around 2.2x).
Piccolo - 330 Light Grenade - 825 Imperfect Cell - 1250 (around 1.5x, same as #18)
#16 is around Imperfect Cell's level and his punch does jacks*** to Semi Cell, which is even more impressive than #18's defensive feat with Vegeta...
Semi Cell - 2000 (1.6x)
Vegeta shows up and kicks Cell's arse. Cell powers up, thinking that he should be able to best Vegeta. Given that, he should be abel to demolish his former self. We can still keep it low and use 1.2x, then...
Semi Cell - 2400
He punches Vegeta to little effect. So that gap is well beyond ~1.33x.
Semi Cell - 2400 USSJ Vegeta - 3500
Cell becomes perfect and takes Vegeta's blow to the neck with no trouble.
USSJ Vegeta - 3500 Cell - 5600
This is where it gets more opinionated, since I believe that 50% MSSJ Goku <~ Initial Perfect Cell, whereas others think he's stronger than USSJ2 Trunks. My opinion allows us to keep the figures lower, so let's go with that...
50% Goku - 5500 100% Goku - 11,000
Cell has a clear advantage over Goku, though not a total stomp.
100% Goku - 11,000 Cell - 12,500
Gohan doesn't think much of the fight and Cell can hardly hit him.
Cell - 12,500 Gohan - 15,000
Gohan goes SSJ2. Let's use the lowest accepted multiplier, 2x...
SSJ2 Gohan - 30,000
FP Cell can budge Gohan with a punch, but he still gets owned.
SSJ2 Gohan - 30,000 FP Cell - 20,500
A quick, make-shift list with the lowest possible gaps I could muster. Even then, I end up with a 205x gap between Cell and Freeza. That doesn't even come close to Freeza's advantage over Ginyu, and those two were from the same story arc. So there really shouldn't be a problem with this or the 1000xish gaps.
It doesn't matter if you can beat up a foe at 10x their strength. With characters this far apart in the story, a gap like 10x would be what's considered 'small'. If two characters from the same arc that be over 1000x apart, then the two main villains of separate arcs can certainly be hundreds or thousands of times apart from each other, and there's no reason at all that it should look 'weird'.
If Ginyu - 120,000, Freeza - 120,000,000+ is no problem, then people shouldn't get so riled up about Cell being at, say, 60,000,000,000 or something. frieza is 120000000 because he was supposed to be the LAST arcvillain .... thats why thers a 1000 gap between them
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-She knocked down Rilld, someone stronger than Boo, with Trunks even noting that she was possibly stronger than him. -She recieved no damage from SSJ Goten Baby, despite not fighting back at all. -Her Kamehameha almost defeated Liu Xing Long, who was able to compete with Base Goku, who at the time was far stronger than his Baby Arc self, who was already above Gohan Boo. -She mocked Qi Xing Long's speed, despite him being strong enough to withstand attacks from SS4 Goku, and being absorbed by him allowed Qi to get to a level where he could thrash SS4 Goku once Goku had lost Shouki and Yuuki. -Toriyama apparently didn't know how to design a female SSJ, plus, Toei seemed to prefer Base Saiyans (Goku fought in base for far more than twice the time he used SSJ forms other than SS4).
Oh yes, someone with a lot to place them well over the majority of DBZ characters, and fully above any of them by the time of the Evil Dragon Arc wouldn't measure up to much more than a 9,000 BP.
for Pan Spoiler: click to toggle furthermore Well Tenshinhan got a damn fine kick by Buuhan and survived ..so that supposed to mean that he is at least super buu level? plus PoPo can deal with two MSSJ so that d mean that he is Equal to them?? ..hmmm
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Jun 1 2013, 12:12 PM
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I have every Year goku getting 1.5x times stronger. That means yardrat goku is stronger than than namek goku by 2.25x Times(SSJ multiplier slows down by x5 each year ,So Yardrat Goku's ssj multiplier is 45x) 3,000,000 x 2.25 = 6,750,000 6,750,000 x 45 = 303,750,000 As you can see here,goku (Yardrat saga) is 2.53 times stronger than Frieza. Once again goku trains for 3 years,which boost his power by 4.5x and lowers his SSJ Multiplier by 15: 6,750,000 x 4.5 = 30,375,000 30,375,000 x 30 = 911,250,000 Android saga goku is stronger than Frieza than frieza by 7.59 times. I have 1 year training in the Rosat room equals 3 years: That means goku is 4.5 stronger his SSJ multiplier is 25x 30,375,000 x 4.5 = 136,687,500 136,687,500 x 25 = 3,417,187,500 Cell games saga goku won't need to beat SSJ to beat frieza. I have goku's full power at third of cell's full strength: 3,417,187,500 x 3 = 10,251,562,500 10,251,562,500 / 120,000,000 = 85.42 So there you are,I have FP cell is 85.42 times stronger than Frieza. Also for SPC: I have Gohan slightly above Goku,I'd put him at 3,700,000,000. I have SSJ2 Gohan 2x stronger than FP cell who is 3x stronger than goku. So Gohan is 20,503,125,000 Gohan is 170.84 times stronger Than Frieza. Cell is like 0.10 stronger than gohan: 20,503,125,000 + 2,050,312,500 = 22,553,437,500 22,553,437,500 / 120,000,000 = 187.94(188) SPC is 188 times stronger than 100% Frieza
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Jun 1 2013, 12:19 PM
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Well Tenshinhan got a damn fine kick by Buuhan and survived ..so that supposed to mean that he is at least super buu level? plus PoPo can deal with two MSSJ so that d mean that he is Equal to them?? ..hmmm Taking no damage =/= Inconsistent survival feats. By your logic, any successes in tanking are relatively the same as survival feats, which is just plain ridiculous. And Popo obviously gained a Toei hax in that situation, along with the kids likely being nerfed given how #18 held her own against them in previous filler, so that too is a poor example. Dude, stop doing this. Unless you're referring to Z Pan (who still has enough to easily place her above a 9,000 BP) then it's obvious that Pan is far stronger than you give her credit for. Don't be biased just because you hate her, it shows a large inability to ignore proof.
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And Popo obviously gained a Toei hax in that situation, along with the kids likely being nerfed given how #18 held her own against them in previous filler, so that too is a poor example.
Well ...GT is made by tha same team  but yeah lets stop this we ve discussed what we wanted to...
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Jun 1 2013, 12:57 PM
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Erm, last time I checked, I have FPPC 2,800x-ish stronger than 100% Freeza
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ithink having *5000 and more as a gap is ridiculous Vegeta could stomp dodoria with a 1.2 gap .. Furthermore if cell is more than *5000 times stronger than frieza that would mean that MSSJ gohan is also *3500 times stronger than frieza .. hmmm Dont forget that frieza was somewhere *10 times stronger than Nail ....and he beat the crap outta him In my opinion Cell's max is *10times stonger than frieza's .... REASON:it is not necessary to create such a big gaps,being 10 times stronger means simple roflstomp....
It doesn't matter whether or not 10x or 5x or 2x is enough to 'roflstomp' an opponent. The difference between Cell and Freeza isn't determined by how well Cell can stomp Freeza, because then I could just say there's a 1.2x difference between them both. The difference between them is determined by the differences between everyone above Freeza and below Cell. - Abyss
- May 31 2013, 02:45 PM
I am not sayin that we have to use 1.001 gaps ..for stomps But look this .. BoZ goku ~1000 EoZ goku 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Now tell me if it is not weird
Firstly, no one's going to end up with such a figure. You're blowing it out of proportion in order to make it look more ridiculous than it is. Secondly, why does it matter if you find it weird? Say you work with the gaps implied and made a list, and you end up gauging Cell to be a few hundred times stronger than Freeza. So what? At least your result is more reliable than the guesses that you're pulling out of thin air right now. Just to spell things out about the whole 'big gap' thing, keeping things as small as I can (if you have the patience to read it all): Spoiler: click to toggle Goku and Freeza have a close fight.
Freeza - 100 SSJ Goku - 104
Freeza gets a mechanical body and thinks he might beat Goku on his own now. Logically, he's a little stronger at this stage...
SSJ Goku - 104 Mecha Freeza - 105
Trunks comes in and claims he can kill Freeza instantly. At the very least, something like 1.2x (Vegeta over Dodoria) is needed here since that's the lowest example we have of an insta-kill.
Mecha Freeza - 105 SSJ Trunks - 126
When Piccolo fights #20, he wonders whether or not #20 might be one of foes Trunks spoke of, or if #20 were just another weakling like #19. So, we can gather that #20's strong enough to 'demolish Trunks', but he isn't so powerful that it's a certainty. Lowest 'stomping' gap we have would arguably be Monster Zarbon over Vegeta, which was around or a little under 1.2x or so depending on your Monster Zarbon figure. Apply that here...
SSJ Trunks - 126 #20 - 150
Piccolo lol-pwns #20. Let's use 1.2x again...
#20 - 150 Piccolo - 180
Piccolo puts Trunks on a higher level than him when saying telling Krillin something along the lines of, "don't worry, not even Trunks could beat them." It isn't necessarily a stomp, but Piccolo doesn't exactly rival either..so less than 1.2x between the two, but not too small.
Piccolo - 180 SSJ Trunks - 200
Tenshinhan claims that Vegeta isn't too far from Goku, and Goku isn't too far from Trunks. Trunks thinks Vegeta's power is amazing. So there's a gap between the two, but nothing huge...
SSJ Trunks - 200 SSJ Goku - 210 SSJ Vegeta - 215
#18 comes in and completely owns Vegeta. However, 1.2x wouldn't suffice here. Why? Because she took Vegeta's punch to the gut, hardly flinching, whereas Reacoom (who was roughly ~1.33x Vegeta, according to most) was sent flying by Vegeta's punch. She also took his chi blast with no damage.
SSJ Vegeta - 215 #18 - 320 (almost 1.5x)
She rivals #17, but there's somewhat of a gap between the two since #20 specifically made #18 weaker hoping she'd be more obedient as a result.
#17 - 340
Piccolo (with Kami) is around #17's level, arguably a little bit stronger since he continued to fight him evenly even after tiring himself out a bit.
Piccolo - 350 #17 - 340 Piccolo (tiring) - 330
Piccolo uses the Light Grenade on Cell to no effect. Given that he thought little of Cell's Kamehameha from before, his attack should be superior to the Kamehameha (which was Goku's KHH in the Saiyan Saga, which was amplified by around 2.2x).
Piccolo - 330 Light Grenade - 825 Imperfect Cell - 1250 (around 1.5x, same as #18)
#16 is around Imperfect Cell's level and his punch does jacks*** to Semi Cell, which is even more impressive than #18's defensive feat with Vegeta...
Semi Cell - 2000 (1.6x)
Vegeta shows up and kicks Cell's arse. Cell powers up, thinking that he should be able to best Vegeta. Given that, he should be abel to demolish his former self. We can still keep it low and use 1.2x, then...
Semi Cell - 2400
He punches Vegeta to little effect. So that gap is well beyond ~1.33x.
Semi Cell - 2400 USSJ Vegeta - 3500
Cell becomes perfect and takes Vegeta's blow to the neck with no trouble.
USSJ Vegeta - 3500 Cell - 5600
This is where it gets more opinionated, since I believe that 50% MSSJ Goku <~ Initial Perfect Cell, whereas others think he's stronger than USSJ2 Trunks. My opinion allows us to keep the figures lower, so let's go with that...
50% Goku - 5500 100% Goku - 11,000
Cell has a clear advantage over Goku, though not a total stomp.
100% Goku - 11,000 Cell - 12,500
Gohan doesn't think much of the fight and Cell can hardly hit him.
Cell - 12,500 Gohan - 15,000
Gohan goes SSJ2. Let's use the lowest accepted multiplier, 2x...
SSJ2 Gohan - 30,000
FP Cell can budge Gohan with a punch, but he still gets owned.
SSJ2 Gohan - 30,000 FP Cell - 20,500
A quick, make-shift list with the lowest possible gaps I could muster. Even then, I end up with a 205x gap between Cell and Freeza. That doesn't even come close to Freeza's advantage over Ginyu, and those two were from the same story arc. So there really shouldn't be a problem with this or the 1000xish gaps.
It doesn't matter if you can beat up a foe at 10x their strength. With characters this far apart in the story, a gap like 10x would be what's considered 'small'. If two characters from the same arc that be over 1000x apart, then the two main villains of separate arcs can certainly be hundreds or thousands of times apart from each other, and there's no reason at all that it should look 'weird'.
If Ginyu - 120,000, Freeza - 120,000,000+ is no problem, then people shouldn't get so riled up about Cell being at, say, 60,000,000,000 or something.
frieza is 120000000 because he was supposed to be the LAST arcvillain .... thats why thers a 1000 gap between them Doesn't matter what he was supposed to be because in the end, he wasn't. In the end, both are just supervillains, so whatever exception you feel like giving Freeza applies to Cell (and Boo) as well.
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ithink having *5000 and more as a gap is ridiculous Vegeta could stomp dodoria with a 1.2 gap .. Furthermore if cell is more than *5000 times stronger than frieza that would mean that MSSJ gohan is also *3500 times stronger than frieza .. hmmm Dont forget that frieza was somewhere *10 times stronger than Nail ....and he beat the crap outta him In my opinion Cell's max is *10times stonger than frieza's .... REASON:it is not necessary to create such a big gaps,being 10 times stronger means simple roflstomp....
It doesn't matter whether or not 10x or 5x or 2x is enough to 'roflstomp' an opponent. The difference between Cell and Freeza isn't determined by how well Cell can stomp Freeza, because then I could just say there's a 1.2x difference between them both. The difference between them is determined by the differences between everyone above Freeza and below Cell. - Abyss
- May 31 2013, 02:45 PM
I am not sayin that we have to use 1.001 gaps ..for stomps But look this .. BoZ goku ~1000 EoZ goku 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Now tell me if it is not weird
Firstly, no one's going to end up with such a figure. You're blowing it out of proportion in order to make it look more ridiculous than it is. Secondly, why does it matter if you find it weird? Say you work with the gaps implied and made a list, and you end up gauging Cell to be a few hundred times stronger than Freeza. So what? At least your result is more reliable than the guesses that you're pulling out of thin air right now. Just to spell things out about the whole 'big gap' thing, keeping things as small as I can (if you have the patience to read it all): Spoiler: click to toggle Goku and Freeza have a close fight.
Freeza - 100 SSJ Goku - 104
Freeza gets a mechanical body and thinks he might beat Goku on his own now. Logically, he's a little stronger at this stage...
SSJ Goku - 104 Mecha Freeza - 105
Trunks comes in and claims he can kill Freeza instantly. At the very least, something like 1.2x (Vegeta over Dodoria) is needed here since that's the lowest example we have of an insta-kill.
Mecha Freeza - 105 SSJ Trunks - 126
When Piccolo fights #20, he wonders whether or not #20 might be one of foes Trunks spoke of, or if #20 were just another weakling like #19. So, we can gather that #20's strong enough to 'demolish Trunks', but he isn't so powerful that it's a certainty. Lowest 'stomping' gap we have would arguably be Monster Zarbon over Vegeta, which was around or a little under 1.2x or so depending on your Monster Zarbon figure. Apply that here...
SSJ Trunks - 126 #20 - 150
Piccolo lol-pwns #20. Let's use 1.2x again...
#20 - 150 Piccolo - 180
Piccolo puts Trunks on a higher level than him when saying telling Krillin something along the lines of, "don't worry, not even Trunks could beat them." It isn't necessarily a stomp, but Piccolo doesn't exactly rival either..so less than 1.2x between the two, but not too small.
Piccolo - 180 SSJ Trunks - 200
Tenshinhan claims that Vegeta isn't too far from Goku, and Goku isn't too far from Trunks. Trunks thinks Vegeta's power is amazing. So there's a gap between the two, but nothing huge...
SSJ Trunks - 200 SSJ Goku - 210 SSJ Vegeta - 215
#18 comes in and completely owns Vegeta. However, 1.2x wouldn't suffice here. Why? Because she took Vegeta's punch to the gut, hardly flinching, whereas Reacoom (who was roughly ~1.33x Vegeta, according to most) was sent flying by Vegeta's punch. She also took his chi blast with no damage.
SSJ Vegeta - 215 #18 - 320 (almost 1.5x)
She rivals #17, but there's somewhat of a gap between the two since #20 specifically made #18 weaker hoping she'd be more obedient as a result.
#17 - 340
Piccolo (with Kami) is around #17's level, arguably a little bit stronger since he continued to fight him evenly even after tiring himself out a bit.
Piccolo - 350 #17 - 340 Piccolo (tiring) - 330
Piccolo uses the Light Grenade on Cell to no effect. Given that he thought little of Cell's Kamehameha from before, his attack should be superior to the Kamehameha (which was Goku's KHH in the Saiyan Saga, which was amplified by around 2.2x).
Piccolo - 330 Light Grenade - 825 Imperfect Cell - 1250 (around 1.5x, same as #18)
#16 is around Imperfect Cell's level and his punch does jacks*** to Semi Cell, which is even more impressive than #18's defensive feat with Vegeta...
Semi Cell - 2000 (1.6x)
Vegeta shows up and kicks Cell's arse. Cell powers up, thinking that he should be able to best Vegeta. Given that, he should be abel to demolish his former self. We can still keep it low and use 1.2x, then...
Semi Cell - 2400
He punches Vegeta to little effect. So that gap is well beyond ~1.33x.
Semi Cell - 2400 USSJ Vegeta - 3500
Cell becomes perfect and takes Vegeta's blow to the neck with no trouble.
USSJ Vegeta - 3500 Cell - 5600
This is where it gets more opinionated, since I believe that 50% MSSJ Goku <~ Initial Perfect Cell, whereas others think he's stronger than USSJ2 Trunks. My opinion allows us to keep the figures lower, so let's go with that...
50% Goku - 5500 100% Goku - 11,000
Cell has a clear advantage over Goku, though not a total stomp.
100% Goku - 11,000 Cell - 12,500
Gohan doesn't think much of the fight and Cell can hardly hit him.
Cell - 12,500 Gohan - 15,000
Gohan goes SSJ2. Let's use the lowest accepted multiplier, 2x...
SSJ2 Gohan - 30,000
FP Cell can budge Gohan with a punch, but he still gets owned.
SSJ2 Gohan - 30,000 FP Cell - 20,500
A quick, make-shift list with the lowest possible gaps I could muster. Even then, I end up with a 205x gap between Cell and Freeza. That doesn't even come close to Freeza's advantage over Ginyu, and those two were from the same story arc. So there really shouldn't be a problem with this or the 1000xish gaps.
It doesn't matter if you can beat up a foe at 10x their strength. With characters this far apart in the story, a gap like 10x would be what's considered 'small'. If two characters from the same arc that be over 1000x apart, then the two main villains of separate arcs can certainly be hundreds or thousands of times apart from each other, and there's no reason at all that it should look 'weird'.
If Ginyu - 120,000, Freeza - 120,000,000+ is no problem, then people shouldn't get so riled up about Cell being at, say, 60,000,000,000 or something.
frieza is 120000000 because he was supposed to be the LAST arcvillain .... thats why thers a 1000 gap between them
Doesn't matter what he was supposed to be because in the end, he wasn't. In the end, both are just supervillains, so whatever exception you feel like giving Freeza applies to Cell (and Boo) as well. yes but when did 'they" decide to continue after frieza ...I bet after AT revealed frieza PL
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